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Date: Tue, 10 May 94 04:30:20 PDT
From: Ham-Homebrew Mailing List and Newsgroup <ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Ham-Homebrew Digest V94 #124
To: Ham-Homebrew
Ham-Homebrew Digest Tue, 10 May 94 Volume 94 : Issue 124
Today's Topics:
*****Ideas sought for a 400MHz oscillator design***** (2 msgs)
diode ring detector with smd's?
Help w/ 'RF Design' Magazine article 1/88 issue
Making CW with a CB rig?
Metal-Encased Mica Caps
MOSFET Power Amp Schematics/Info ??? (2 msgs)
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Date: 10 May 94 08:17:42 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!rat!zeus!snorris@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: *****Ideas sought for a 400MHz oscillator design*****
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
I am working on a senior project that requires the use of a 400MHz sine
wave local oscillator. This oscillator will be used to construct a portable,
multi-band frequency converter which can be placed on a handheld amateur
radio.
My question is: Does anyone have any ideas for generating a 400MHz sinewave?
It should be capable of delivering about +7dBm into 50 ohms and be able
to run from a 7.2V battery.
I have looked around a bit, but have yet to find anything that really
goes up that high in frequency. I have kicked around a few ideas, but I
wanted to see if anyone here had some good ideas before I started trying
circuits.
Also, I would rather the circuit use lumped elements (i.e SMD) because I
want to keep the circuit absolutely as small as possible and I think
distributed elements would make it too large for what I want.
So if anyone has any circuit ideas or can suggest some good references,
then please E-mail me as soon as possible.
Thanks in advance,
Sean
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Sean Norris snorris@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu
--KE6BTE-- Electronic Engineers do it with less resistance.
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Date: 10 May 94 09:43:00 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!univ-lyon1.fr!elendir@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: *****Ideas sought for a 400MHz oscillator design*****
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
Sean Norris (snorris@harp.aix.calpoly.edu) wrote:
: I am working on a senior project that requires the use of a 400MHz sine
: wave local oscillator. This oscillator will be used to construct a portable,
: multi-band frequency converter which can be placed on a handheld amateur
: radio.
: My question is: Does anyone have any ideas for generating a 400MHz sinewave?
: It should be capable of delivering about +7dBm into 50 ohms and be able
: to run from a 7.2V battery.
Sean,
Build a 130 MHz oscillator and use a frequency tripler. Works fine. The
tripler can also amplify your signal up to your requirements ; the
oscillator is not loaded anymore, so it is far more stable.
It)s the way I)m going to cope for a home-made VHF/UHF all mode TX.
73 !
Vince.
--
PSG --- Paris SG football club. | Ham radio call : F1RCS
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ENST - Ecole Nationale Superieure des Telecommunications, Paris, France
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Date: Mon, 9 May 1994 12:24:05 GMT
From: psinntp!arrl.org!zlau@uunet.uu.net
Subject: diode ring detector with smd's?
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
JimN0OCT (jimn0oct@aol.com) wrote:
: Has anyone experimented with the surface mount HP-2800 hot carrier diodes as
: diode ring detectors for DC receivers?? I'm curious to know if they will give
: similar performance to regular HP-2800's? I need a _SMALL_ package for a
: receiver I'm building, and these would be perfect.
The popular Mini-Circuits SBL-1 uses a little surface mount mixer ring
in its mixers. Usually, surface mount devices work better than leaded
devices in terms of switching speed, though you sometimes lose a bit
in the power handling capability.
Supposedly, the best diodes to use in DC receivers are those optimized
for low 1/f noise. I think mesh diodes were designed for this purpose.
Otherwise, the mixer may be noisier than you might expect from the
conversion loss.
If you buy diode pairs or quads, make sure they are hooked up the way
you want them to.
--
Zack Lau KH6CP/1 2 way QRP WAS
8 States on 10 GHz
Internet: zlau@arrl.org 10 grids on 2304 MHz
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Date: 9 May 1994 14:33:14 GMT
From: yale.edu!noc.near.net!hopscotch.ksr.com!jfw@yale.arpa
Subject: Help w/ 'RF Design' Magazine article 1/88 issue
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
dean@splinter.coe.neu.edu (Dean Gelabert) writes:
> Hi:
> Does anyone read RF Design? I'm looking for an article entitled 'Simple
> Spectrum Analyzer, A Pocket Sized 0-100 Mhz Unit Uses Only Three IC's'
> by A. Halfrick. I believe it's in the Jan. 88 issue. If so, could I please
> have a copy or an adress to retrieve that issue? Thanks in advance.
> -Thomas
You can get photocopies of articles from RF Design itself; they don't have
actual back issues that old (I actually called about that one a couple of
years ago, but couldn't remember the article name! Now I can finally get
it :-). I'll look up the phone number tonight (my RF Design pile is at
home). (Actually, I seem to recall that it's the February issue, but I'll
find out.)
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Date: 9 May 1994 08:01:29 -0700
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!udel!news2.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!connected.com!seatimes.seatimes.com!seatimes.seatimes.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Making CW with a CB rig?
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
: The problem is in the reception. How will you be able to hear it? The
: CB sets do not have a BFO, or Beat Frequency Oscillator, like Ham Radios
: do. You will have to make up one for your receiver.
The CB sets with SSB will work just fine. You know, those sets that
advertise 120 channels! ;-)
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Date: 9 May 94 18:53:45 GMT
From: sdd.hp.com!col.hp.com!srgenprp!alanb@hplabs.hpl.hp.com
Subject: Metal-Encased Mica Caps
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
Doug Braun (dbraun@ilx049.iil.intel.com) wrote:
: A HT Amp I bought (RF Concepts) uses these funny capacitors in
: the RF circuits. They look like a collection of bits of mica and other
: stuff, clamped in a little metal frame. They are between 1/4" and 1/2"
: on a side. I also just got a "Surplus Sales of Nebraska" flyer, which
: lists some of them for sale.
: I was wondering: what is the advantage of this type of device?
: They look sort of crude, with an open construction that could
: let solder, moisture, etc. get in and mess them up.
High Q, low inductance and low cost.
AL N1AL
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Date: 9 May 94 19:08:28 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!koriel!newsworthy.West.Sun.COM!abyss.West.Sun.COM!spot!myers@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: MOSFET Power Amp Schematics/Info ???
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
In article 4155@ccc.amdahl.com, dws30@p1dbg02cd.amdahl.com (David Sharpe) writes:
>Subject says it all for the most part. Toying with the idea of building
>a QRP Amp out of MOSFETS. Any schematics or pointers to information
>would be greatly appriciated. Want to build one for VHF/UHF and HF when
>I tackle the code and are up to speed. (Beginner = Low Wattage)
For VHF/UHF, meaning above 6m, you'd probably need 'real' power RF MOSFETs,
such as the MRF171, etc. These are fairly pricey, but offer high gain and
a lot of power, but they are fairly easy to fry. I'd suggest getting your
feet wet with the less expensive bipolar transistors, such as the 2N5590,
or MRF1946. These are more rugged and would make a better beginner project.
For HF and VHF-low (meaning 6m), you can probably get really good results
with conventional switching FETs. The IRF510 (or IRF511) is easily available,
cheap, and offers good performance to 60MHz. You can expect between 5-20W
output, depending on frequency and circuit design. There have been articles
in QST and other mags, also, look for Doug DeMaw's QRP Notebook at a ham
store. I've had an MTP3055E deliver 40W of RF at 14Mhz with about 500mW of
drive. Good stuff, but don't go for max power if you want the part to last :=).
On the other hand, replacements are about $1, so what the heck?
73
Dana
---
* Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are *
* (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily *
* Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer *
* This Extra supports the abolition of the 13 and 20 WPM tests *
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Date: 10 May 94 03:41:05 GMT
From: agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!koriel!newsworthy.West.Sun.COM!abyss.West.Sun.COM!spot!myers@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Subject: MOSFET Power Amp Schematics/Info ???
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
In article 6nF@netcom.com, tgm@netcom.com (Thomas G. McWilliams) writes:
>David Sharpe (dws30@p1dbg02cd.amdahl.com) wrote:
>: Subject says it all for the most part. Toying with the idea of building
>: a QRP Amp out of MOSFETS. Any schematics or pointers to information
>: would be greatly appreciated. Want to build one for VHF/UHF and HF when
>: I tackle the code and are up to speed. (Beginner = Low Wattage)
>
>I've wondered about this too. It seems to me that a power MOSFET
>would not be a good choice for a class C amp. Power MOSFETS have
>a "parasitic" diode that is connected from drain to source. This
>diode is an artifact of the manufacturing process. In most
>applications this diode is reverse biased. But what happens in
>class C service when the drain swings negative (for N channel
>mosfet)? Wouldn't this intrinsic diode tend to clamp negative
>swing on the drain? It would degrade the efficiency and Q of
>the output network, I would think. I guess class A or AB service
>might work.
Umm... under normal circumstances, the drain doesn't swing below ground.
I've built several power MOSFET RF amplifiers, mostly with IRF511 and
MTP3055E. They all worked quite well. Using a 24V drain supply results
in greater efficiency and higher output power. I could get 35W+ out of
an MTP3055E on 20m with maybe 500mW of drive. I never managed to find a
really good input match; it was always about 2:1, which isn't awful. A
-3dB pad would improve it a little.
---
* Dana H. Myers KK6JQ, DoD#: j | Views expressed here are *
* (310) 348-6043 | mine and do not necessarily *
* Dana.Myers@West.Sun.Com | reflect those of my employer *
* This Extra supports the abolition of the 13 and 20 WPM tests *
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Date: 9 May 94 13:43:46 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!cat.cis.Brown.EDU!noc.near.net!news.delphi.com!BIX.com!hamilton@network.ucsd.edu
To: ham-homebrew@ucsd.edu
References <2q3jks$bhl@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, <hamilton.767917015@BIX.com>, <1994May5.152336.54@drager.com>■╖
Subject : Re: Newbie code Practice receiver -- feasible?
landisj@drager.com (Joe Landis - System & Network Mgr) writes:
>In article <hamilton.767917015@BIX.com>, hamilton@BIX.com (hamilton on BIX) writes:
>> My advice is to not to waste your money on something cheap. You only
>> get what you pay for. If you're looking for some inexpensive code
>> practice, get the ARRL code practice tapes. They _really_ work and
>> they're really worth the money.
>>
>> Don't expect to practice with the W1AW signals (depending on your
>> location) until you get a "real" radio.
>You can get an old Heathkit reciever or transceiver for under $100, and a good
>one, at that. I got my code up from 5WPM to over 20 by listening to tapes made
>from W1AW on my old SB303. There was an SB303 posted for sale here recently for
>$90. This is a great 2nd receiver to have around too. Or you can always sell
>it for about what you paid for it.
>Joe - AA3GN
Just to clarify: I agree with Joe's remarks. An older radio that's
inexpensive merely because it's used and perhaps lacks all the fancy
digital features, etc., but is otherwise servicable meets my definition
as "real". My suggestion that one should not buy something cheap was
in the context of discussion of one of those $30 kits designed solely
for listening to W1AW.
Regards,
Doug Hamilton KD1UJ hamilton@bix.com Ph 508-358-5715
Hamilton Laboratories, 13 Old Farm Road, Wayland, MA 01778-3117, USA
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End of Ham-Homebrew Digest V94 #124
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